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Copying patterns.....the bane of every shop's existence!

5/29/2014

42 Comments

 
Today's blog is short but not sweet.  Copying patterns is not flattery it's battery! 
PicturePATCHES (Hooked for me by Susan Leslie)
Well, I guess it’s time for another copyright chat.  I started the work day by seeing one of my patterns, Patches, copied.  A customer brought it in to find a brown herringbone for some of the flower centers.  It’s a large pattern with a scarecrow, pumpkins and sunflowers.   It was very poorly copied, with layers of marker lines as the person tried to get the perspective straight.  It was on a dark linen that I don’t sell.   It looked as if it was drawn from the website because a red dot transfer would have been cleaner. 

I don’t hide behind the door when I see an injustice, either one perpetrated on me or any designer that I am familiar with.  I can spot a copy from fifty paces.  I told the customer that the pattern was my design and clearly copied.  A ball began to grow in the pit of my stomach and I felt sick.  The money we could have made selling that pattern would have covered the labour of one of my hired girls for a day.  Stealing a pattern that way hurts a small business heavily.  It’s one of the reasons a lot of rug shops don’t make it.  Consider that when you copy a pattern from a shop, it’s stealing as if you walked in the door and put the pattern in your purse.  In this day and age, and with all the talk about copyright, one would think it’s a rare occurrence, but I hear and see things all the time. It’s very sad. 

The woman said she bought it in a yard sale somewhere but didn't remember where.   I tried to take a picture of the pattern for this blog but the customer got upset and said she didn’t want to get anyone in trouble and started folding the pattern.   She said, "I can't let you do that".  I told her spreading awareness is key to educating people to stop doing it.  She said no again.  I have to admit I was a bit put out, protecting someone she didn’t even know or remember shouldn’t have taken precedent over the respect for my feelings; she knew that I was upset, I was the one wronged here.    

Anyway, sorry for all you honest gals out there, having to bore you with the same old rant.  I'm trying not to let it ruin this fabulous, sunny day but my back teeth are grinding.  One by one we need to cut down on this thievery so shops can support themselves so we continue to be available for your rug hooking needs.


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Sunnie Andress link
5/29/2014 02:21:30 am

Christine, I understand and agree wholeheartedly with you! I am having a similar problem, but the work I do is mostly one-of a kind and not patterns. If I use a public domain image, an antique design long out of copyright or a Dover permission free image, I always try to define my rug as such!!! Then others can go to the same original source, if they wish, to do their own rugs...(and not copy my adaptation which is mine!!!)
But in my years of rug hooking, I have seen some rug hookers taking a copy of someone else's pattern before it is hooked...("I'm just taking this for myself...not to show!"), taking the pattern out of some shop's catalog or running off copies of a paper pattern for several others. It is simply stealing. When I have spoken up (glad you did...good for you!!!) I have been told that "everybody does it" and that I am too sensitive!!! Please keep speaking up about this issue. I love to have my work "inspire" others...and I use other art to inspire my rugs too. But copying (or just changing a couple of things!!!) a pattern by someone else is just plain wrong! Thanks for listening to my rant too!! I enjoy seeing your lovely shop and rugs on Facebook each day!
Happy Hooking! Sunnie ;)

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Anne Lewis
5/29/2014 05:54:17 am

I actually had permission to "copy" a pattern from a designer before I donated it at a hook in 'auction' once. All she asked is that my finished copy appear on her Photo Trail.The shop owner who put on the week-end & auction emailed the designer during the Retreat, and whilst staring at the linen and lovely tags, misrepresented me as auctioning off a red dot copy - I presented her with the original pattern for her 'charity;! I think this person copied many a pattern from her shop herself and was some kind of 'reporting nut' - has 'reported' many a person I've heard since. I'd just had knee replacement surgery and buried my mother. As Dr. Maya has been recently quoted as saying, we never forget those "feelings". As a result of this crazy over zealousness, I will not buy patterns from designers unless they know and trust me. I had spent thousands at this lone Nebraska store - since then I've never darkened that door - and have traveled to nearby midwest hook-ins since and enjoyed that since - a new one is starting up annually in the Omaha area, and that will be very affordable for me, a teacher on a fixed income. If I feel like a splurge, Christine is one. Her designs are so intricate - there would be no doubt - and of course Yvonne Buus and Christy Mason my dears. Christine would never think I'd copy - and there are a few others. I have a bolt of linen I bought on a whim and still had some $$'s way back in '07 when I first started hooking. I can draw a pumpkin or a flower or such myself to please myself, and have a stash of wool that Mara has helped my color sort in my new downstairs rug gallery. My heart still goes into some weird gear when I remember the horrid response from the poor lady in MA when she thought I was wanting to hawk - saying I had permission to auction off red dot at an auction - and another 'teacher' there at the 'retreat' saw the email, what was going on - and thought this was all right - Someone like Christine would not be fooled by all this one upmanship is what I'd call it - So hurtful - I'm so scrupulous - have many correspondences - most from the past with designers…I love my Barb Carroll book with all the patterns and directions 'to copy' end expand in the back - on my Facebook page is one of my favorites - the owl, pumpkin, fence, etc. This is a great blog to learn on. Christine, you can draw beautifully, and dye beautifully and lots more - so we stand behind you and other artists - good luck there.
Anne Marie Lewis.

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Sharon smith link
5/30/2014 08:32:30 am

i think I know this horsey shop in Nebraska and would not trust a thing there...I suspect my patterns are copied there too. but how do you prove it? not about to drive to Nebraska

Shirlee Hogan link
5/30/2014 01:45:48 am

Deanne, I don't know how you keep track of your patterns; and there are so many 'adaptations' of yours .... we see them here at Pastimes PEI and always wonder if they are outright 'copied' or 'adapted' or just look like yours. I think that all we can do keep trying to inform/shame people and post "Thank you for respecting copyright laws. These designs are by...... Enjoy them but do not copy them."

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Shirlee Hogan link
5/30/2014 01:50:33 am

Sorry, I should have said "Christine" and "Deanne"

Mary
7/12/2018 06:35:41 am

Hi Christine,
Being reasonably new to hooking, I have a related question. If I see a painting that I would like to base a design on (drawing it out myself), do I need the artist's permission to do so? It would not be sold, simply for my own pleasure...

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Dana Rea
5/29/2014 02:54:55 am

I am so sorry to hear that this goes on! I am an avid hooker. I have hooked far more patterns that I have purchased than those I have designed on my own. I actually consider it a privilege to be able to purchase someone's pattern and hook my own rendition of that piece. You are right that this is thievery! I am so glad you pushed the issue with your "customer". Her reaction makes me think that she didn't actually get the pattern at a garage sale...that something more dishonest was afoot. Never stop standing up for your beliefs. Never apologize for defending what is right!

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Barbara
5/29/2014 02:59:08 am

I don't think you would have been wrong to read the riot act to someone who is in any way complicit in stealing a design. You have no way of knowing whether she did buy the pattern at a yard sale, or copied it herself, but regardless she does need to be made aware of copyright infringement and how it is stealing someone's work and livelihood.

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Sunnie
5/29/2014 02:59:35 am

I agree with you, Christine! It is just plain wrong! Happy Hooking! Sunnie

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Eileen
5/29/2014 03:00:04 am

You have every right to be peeved. I bet she knows exactly where she got it.

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Yvonne Buus link
5/29/2014 03:34:44 am

Had that pattern truly been purchased from a yard sale, you would think that she would have been horrified and been VERY cooperative in allowing you to take a picture and educate people about it. I can't beleive she had the nerve to go into your store with it- wow!! I had one of my patterns a few months ago- one that I only sell on linen- made into a painting and when I asked the woman about it, she gave me the same 'I bought the pattern at a yard sale- I had no idea' excuse. I had a very hard time believing that a $55 pattern which was only a couple months old could so easily make it to a yard sale so fast....in the dead of winter. I had absolutely no record of this lady in all my sales records- I think she copied right from images she saw online.

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Yvonne Buus link
5/29/2014 03:38:14 am

One more comment!! LOL It is truly a delight to hook a pattern of someone elses- as you know, I am hooking your 'Crocks and Jugs' right now and also a little pattern out of Rug Hooking magazine from Karen Kahle- it is very fun to 'feel' the flavor of someone else's creative mind. To me it is delightful- 'stealing' would take the delight right out of it!!

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Lori
5/29/2014 03:57:23 am

r I am so sorry that happened to you and then was brought into your shop. I am sure that the lady would not have brought it in to your shop if she knew the pattern was stolen from you. I am new at rug hooking and love to draw so naturally I would love to draw my own patterns. I know this is not the same thing that happened to you but it is something that I have been wondering about.....The problem I am having is that if I come up with an idea for a design and then make a sketch of it, get on the internet and look at my facebook or rug sites and see rugs with some of the same ideas that I had already thought of or already drawn up. I feel like I can not hook my design because of fear that someone would think I copied their design that I had not even seen until weeks or more after drawing my pattern. Just like today is the first time I have ever seen that Patches pattern and now I feel like I am not allowed to draw a scarecrow in a garden setting, Valentines Day I wanted to do a heart rug but there are already almost any and every kind of heart rugs already so I gave up on my idea that I thought was "unique" because of seeing heart rugs that were not exactly the same but similar to my idea.....but how many different ways can you draw a heart? I guess my question is how does anyone ever draw an "original" pattern for their own personal use? I doubt that I would ever even copyright a pattern that I drew and know I will never sell a rug. I have no desire to sell my rugs or sell patterns. I feel I am restricted from drawing my own designs in fear of someone thinking that I have copied their idea. Every idea I have had for a rug so far I have been able to eventually find a pattern with not exact but some of the same ideas on it....I am now scared to death to draw my own pattern I can understand your frustration over what happened, but it is also frustrating to not feel comfortable with drawing a pattern in fear that someone else somewhere in the world has already drawn something similar. I have gotten so discouraged about wanting to hook my own ideas and designs that I would love to feel comfortable enough to actually hook something that I created. So if you have any ideas or information on the proper way to go about designing your own patterns please let me know. I have asked other people and they do not seem to have any answers for people like me that want to draw their own patterns with no intention of copying anyone. I really enjoy your site and the information that you share. Thank you so much

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Christine
5/29/2014 04:06:32 am

Lori....know that there are few new ideas, just modifications of what is already there.....in saying this, you know in your heart when you design a rug that it is yours and that is all that matters. Don't let the fact that someone else might have thought of a similar content (remember two great minds think alike) put you off. The bad copying comes into play when the person has someone elses design right in front of them as they draw off a direct likeness, and even if they vary the design it is still copying. If you follow your heart and design your rugs out of your own imagination, no one can take that from you.

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Anne Marie Lewis
5/29/2014 06:05:33 am

Oh! Thank you Christine for that simple, direct response. That question was so direct to what I have often thought with my piece of linen in front of me. Especially since my thoughts run toward something so simple as Hearts. But that's why I admire your Crocks and Jugs - and gifted Yvonne - it is simple but so artistic - authentic with the insignia rightly for those crocks - that is when I want to buy your art - this is why you are great at what you do. I loved my idea of the Sock Monkey - still intend to make more pillows of them - there's one that goes way back and is a 'universal' thing….hearts, apples, and sock monkeys.

Ila
5/29/2014 04:35:33 am

Lori thank you for verbalizing so well what I have also felt...taking time to design a pattern on my own then seeing something similar later.

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Barb
5/29/2014 12:23:21 pm

I agree with Lori. I love to draw my own patterns and am inspired by everything I see. The problem is definitely feeling guilty about exploring similar ideas and styles of artists I admire. Learning how to draw my own patterns and develop my own heart-felt style involves trying many things. I would hope that my work shows my imagination combined with the influence of my mentors and not a thief of ideas.

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Patricia
5/29/2014 04:10:50 am

So sorry Christine. Some nerve to bring this right into your shop. I too doubt it was a yard sale find. I appreciate you and your shop! I would much rather purchase a pattern (many patterns) and feel I am doing a small part in allowing a Canadian to make an honest living in Canada. It is not an easy task to accurately put a pattern on linen, which is too expensive to waste, in the perfect manner in which YOU do. I have never purchased a pattern from your shop that is not aligned to perfection and to my complete satisfaction.
Shame on those who knowingly partake in this dishonesty.

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Kris Miller link
5/29/2014 04:12:39 am

Thank you so much for posting this. It happens to me far too much as well. I know there are copyright infringers lurking out there and sometimes I even know who they are! I am a big advocate for educating everyone on copyright. I think if all of us as designers should continue with this education. We cannot say it enough.

To address Sunnie's comment: I'm sorry that folks think that "it happens all the time" and we are too "sensitive". It is stealing, pure and simple. That is their excuse and their justification for doing something wrong (maybe it eases their guilt too). Imagine their horror if we took $50.00 out of their wallet, or took something off of their front porch because we liked it, we were just going to use it for ourselves, and nobody really noticed that we did it. It's not hurting anyone, right? They don't look at copying a pattern in the same way but it is stealing all the same, no matter what scenario you use.

You can tell I really get up on my soap box when this issue comes up. I've had people roll their eyes at me. Thanks again for speaking up!!!

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joni
5/29/2014 05:38:10 am

Hi
I think this should be brought to the forefront every once in a while as I think copying is a common occurrence. I enjoy buying someone else's pattern - if i like the pattern I think they should be paid for allowing me to hook it. Copying is just plain stealing and nothing else excuses it. You would think these people would feel guilty in using a stolen design. to see a picture of a hooked rug and actually copy is mind boggling...
There are design elements that are universal - it is how you creatively put them together makes the design yours. No one can copyright the shape of a heart or a scarecrow.. you want to do a scarecrow in a field of corn - do it...but make it yours.. don't have another designers work in front of you..you can't help but be influenced by all you see in the world but put your own mark on it so it says that it is you and not someone else's. Don;t make it so that someone looking at it will say - oh that looks so much like so and so's design. I think that will keep you out of trouble :)

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Edna
5/29/2014 05:46:54 am

It happened many times in the shop that I use to work . They would take picture with their camera

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Weslee Hursh
5/29/2014 05:50:12 am

I am so glad to see this dialogue. I absolutely HATE it when I see copied patterns. I am not in the business nor do I make or sell patterns but if I were, I honestly don't know what I would do if someone had copied one of my designs. It makes me crazy when people copy patterns and as some have already so succinctly said, it is just plain stealing! And when you say something to the "thiefs" they do react as if they have done nothing wrong and you are the "pattern police." So be it. I'll continue speaking up! We all should.

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diane mossburg
5/29/2014 05:57:43 am

on a better note love your patterns, would really like to get one called hen party. just started the one I brought with the sheep sitting in chairs hooking

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Laurie link
5/29/2014 06:20:43 am

Christine,
I'm so sorry that this has happened to you. I know that sick feeling and even just reading your story made my heart sink. The audacity of some people just amazes me.
Thank you for your well written post and spreading the word that as designer's we are not getting rich...just trying to make an honest living.

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Susan Lea manning
5/29/2014 08:12:06 am

I totally get that. I buy patterns and I also draw my own. This week I bought the star pattern from your shop. Totally easy to draw but I bought it. It is just the right thing to do.

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Maggie
5/29/2014 12:09:47 pm

I know exactly what you mean and you have my empathy. My hunch is that the customer copied it from someone who bought the original pattern from you; going out on a limb here since I don't know the truth, but if that is the case then both people are thieves. Last year on my blog, I wrote about the very same thing. Pinterest does not help either since it is a resource from which people can copy artwork. Some people are thoughtless and think only of themselves hence the stealing of a design

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Julie Mattison link
5/29/2014 08:21:42 pm

I was happy to read this with my coffee this morning! Yesterday I discovered two of our designs being hooked by what I believe is a husband and wife. One is an 85.00 pattern and the other is a 30.00. Neither is from our studio, Searsport Rug Hooking though. They are poor copies drawn on burlap. The husband even has a picture printed off our website of the finished design on his frame as guidance in one of the pictures. I have locked my web site so people can not copy or print from it any longer. We had left it open so customers could get pictures if they needed them on a pattern they had paid for. I have been just sick over this since I found them yesterday. I have a knot in my stomache and very upset. Where will these people get designs when we business close our doors because we can not pay the bills? Ok getting off my soap box or I will need a glass of wine at 6:00 am to calm down! Lol thank you for the rant space. And I hope there are not a lot of "yard sales" near you this summer!

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Sue
5/29/2014 10:20:46 pm

Is there a way of putting your business name across the front of the image to distort it when printing? I know quite a few photographers do this to prevent downloads of their pics being printed.

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Faye link
5/29/2014 10:54:18 pm

It's happened to me over and over and over. After someone copied my sunflower runner and made it into a wool applique pattern to sell, even the shop owner selling the patterns boldly told me that it was just a coincidence, sunflowers are sunflowers. Funny that the flowers, leaves and the layout was exactly the same. It makes a designer just want to quit the business. It becomes exhausting.

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jeni
5/29/2014 11:09:17 pm

To be fair, let's turn this around. There are some designers out there who copy old patterns. Most of us know who they are. They change directions of the bird/flower/house etc. or put something different in the corners and call it their pattern. Now, anyone can copy an antique pattern, perfectly legal, but it should be labeled "adapted from an antique pattern, circa blah blah blah" (if they know). Their adaptation should not be copied, but the antique original can be copied or changed to your liking. As far as drawing your own patterns go, a heart is a heart is a heart. There are just so many ways to draw it. I guess I don't understand why anyone would buy a pattern with a couple hearts on it. These things cannot be copyrighted, and I say, "go for it!'

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Katie
5/30/2014 01:07:10 am

I'm also sure if she knew she was ripping you off she wouldn't have come into the shop with the rug! And instead of educating her you alienated her which is unfortunate, because I would say 1 you lost a customer and 2 you may have turned her off of rug hooking for good. Unfortunate situation all around

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Sharon
5/30/2014 01:08:15 am

I agree wholeheartedly. This is more than copying, it is stealing and there are laws about copyright infringement,but not enough direction on how to enforce them. The Needlework Association has a whole campaign against copyright issues with brochures that can be distributed. Perhaps they should be distributed to new hookers to educate them about copyright issues. When I teach knitting, one of the topics I include about pattern selection involves copyright and ownership of patterns.

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Wendie Scott Davis link
5/30/2014 03:04:29 am

Hi Christine,
I am sorry to hear of this age old "theft" happening again - and to you. It truly is out-and-out stealing and there are still too many folks who just don't get it.

I also think that the internet has compounded the issue and there is a mistaken belief that any image on the web is "public domain". I have had lots of students base a design on an image they found "online" and when I asked them if they had permission, they were shocked.

It's really not that hard to track down the owner of the copyright. And if they don't have permission, I don't let them use the pattern. I realize this is a very different issue than the one you are facing, but I think people see pictures - of rugs, or anything else - and figure it is open season.

Everyone who has commented here today is correct. It needs to be repeated over and over again. This long conversation proves how necessary and relevant it is. Thanks for opening the door.

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Trish Johnson
5/30/2014 04:22:00 am

I agree with Christine. Rug hookers should buy the pattern from the designer. It is wrong to copy someone else's pattern

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Sunny Nestler
5/30/2014 06:00:13 am

I totally agree with all of you about how copying another's pattern is stealing, and it is loathesome. Not any different in my mind from shoplifting. That leads to a question I've wondered about. I have several old burlap patterns I love, but don't want to hook on. If I trace them onto another backing, especially one not in use when burlap was commonly used, how would someone who knew it was originally only sold on burlap, know I had NOT stolen the pattern? I was told to destroy the pattern, but feel like drawing a big "x" or writing "void" across it, but keeping it as proof of purchase would be a better choice. Especially if I were to enter it in a competition.

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Bebay Boltik
5/30/2014 09:50:44 am

Hopefully the joke will be on them. Your patterns are perfect having bought two so far. I'very seen copied patterns and most likely they will end up with a crooked picure and will always know what they have done...

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Brenda Watts link
6/4/2014 09:50:52 am

Hi Christine,
I read your post on FB the other day and am just now getting a chance to comment. Good on you to write about this. I am not a rug hooker but a fellow craftsperson on PEI, I really object to copyright and concept theft. The more that it is talked about these days the better. The internet has given artisans a wonderful way to make a living doing what they love but has its drawbacks with copiers. I had my rolling pin designs which I have been selling for over 10 years across canada and the US copied by a woodworking shop about 15 minutes from my door last year, they are a larger shop with 5 employees. When confronted their response was 'they are on the internet so it is not stealing' ..I beg to differ and when someones ideas, designs and work are copied it hurts the whole industry. It takes much trial and error to come up with something that sells well, the hours of marketing.... it really is theft..imitation is not a form of flattery, another craftsperson told me they just try to keep quiet about such things...NO.. that is not the right way to go about it.
Last fall Mount Royal Mint from Montreal has her work copied by Cody Foster who had the ornaments made in India and sold them to West Elm..a fellow Etsy seller saw them in a shop and alerted Mount Royal about the ornaments that looked exactly like her work. When West Elm was contacted they worked a deal with Mount Royal and pulled other works off their shelves that were stolen designs from other artists. West Elm said they respect the work of single designers and artists and would not sell 'copies'...
So if we all as artists, craftspeople speak out about this sort of theft, others will not be so quick to copy.
I was unbelievably disappointed and hurt when it happened to me to have a 'fellow Islander, a person who I knew do this made it even worse.
I applaud you for speaking out, I think all 'copiers' and concept theives should be called out...and the general public aware that this sort of thing can really hurt an artist.

Best,
Brenda
Cattails Woodwork

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Christine
6/4/2014 10:42:24 am

Hi Brenda,

Thanks for taking the time to respond to the copyright blog. We are all in this together and need to have a united front.

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Allie
6/11/2014 06:47:27 am

Stealing designs make me sick as it has happened to me. I have had people try to copy my work at guild mtgs by sneaking photographs and I had an original quilt pattern stolen then brought for show and tell at guild. I attended a rug camp in Vermont and we were to design our own rugs and I brought a large metal horse silhouette to use and had permission to use for the design. After the teacher lecturing us on copyright, he asked if he could copy it for future use. I of course said no bc only I had permission and it was someone's trademark then when I wasn't looking someone took it out of my bag and started tracing it which I then stopped. As a result of blatant copying of patterns and designs I no longer belong to my rug hooping guild. Perhaps we can enlist ATHA to KEEP getting the word out esp to the guild reps

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Iolanthe
6/11/2014 10:39:47 am

I suggest an article in Rug Hooking magazine. Get the issue out there and make people accountable for their actions. Copying is stealing a person's livelihood, and it isn't confined to rug hooking either.

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Nana Diana link
6/3/2016 05:34:36 am

My first thought was that the woman had copied the pattern herself. Maybe I am just too suspicious. I used to paint Santas and had SO many people copy my designs and when I went to craft fairs someone would buy my work (to use as a pattern) and then I would see "their" product at the next craft show I did. People are people and some make originals and some are 'copiers' giving no credit where credit is due.

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